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Really glad I joined the Scottish Greens and got involved this year. Going to the count last night was really good fun. We didn't get either of our deposits back but we substantially increased our vote share in both constituencies and managed about 3% (and 4th place) in Dundee West which was pretty damn good all things considered, since that was the seat the SNP were fighting as opposed to defending. And I'm really hopeful for Holyrood next year - there's a lot of sympathy for us locally, especially amongst the SNP lot, we should be able to pick up a lot of regionalist list votes here.

The anger towards Scottish Labour was palpable - the candidate for our constituency (who was running against the deputy leader of the SNP and was never going to win) was the only person whose speech after the results was booed.

Also telling was the fact the local Lib Dems are a bunch of St. Andrews old boys and spent the evening sitting with the local Tories. The Boy got chatting to one of their activists, who is actually a lefty liberal and apparently he's seriously considering decamping and joining us instead.

All in all a really positive experience, I hadn't planned to stay 'til the results were announced but I got caught up and did so anyway. Cheering on our merry little band was a great moment, although we didn't make the BBC Scotland coverage because our results were announced just as Douglas Alexander lost. And then we came home and got sucked into the TV coverage because Jim Murphy was just conceding defeat as we got in. So we didn't go to bed til gone 4am, by which time it was looking like Carmichael might be the only non-SNP left in Scotland and like the exit poll was depressingly accurate.

The next 5 years look to be *interesting* - Tory majority and an EU referendum was about the only scenario where I could see us having another indy ref within the next 10 years but I think it will depend on whether Westminster are prepared to offer electoral reform and how much devolution we now get. It's certainly depressing for the UK as a whole - branding the Scots a bunch of 'ugly nationalists' isn't going to do anything for the state of the Union and if that's the best Labour can manage, England is rather fucked.

Date: 2015-05-08 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ankaret.livejournal.com
I still have no idea who our MP is, but I'm guessing the Tory candidate who fought a lackadaisical campaign based almost entirely on improving mobile phone coverage and mentions repeatedly in his leaflet that he is a Christian. (I'm not against Christians in politics; it's just that I've noticed that the more politicians talk about faith, the less like an example of that faith's better points they tend to behave)

Date: 2015-05-08 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Looks likely, the LDs certainly look to have taken a hammering in your neck of the woods.

Date: 2015-05-08 02:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com
I've no problem with Scottish voters voting SNP - more baffled by the number of English who voted Tory. And depressed at having Cameron's overprivileged buffoons in power STILL.

Date: 2015-05-08 02:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think the most plausible explanation I've seen is that people bought into the idea that the economy is improving and decided changing tact was too big a risk just now. But the number of seats UKIP came *second* in is really depressing, England really does look like a foreign country in terms of attitude from up here :(

Date: 2015-05-08 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com
I'm honestly not sure a lot of the UKIP voters were voting *for* much more than change. Labour took us into an illegal war, and the economy tanked on their watch, and the Lib Dems didn't deliver the change they promised – okay, they stopped the tories being quite the gits they wanted to be, but 'making things less awful' isn't what you want when you voted someone in to make things better. And then the media didn't give the Greens enough attention to be seen as a viable alternative; if they'd had a bit more puff in the press, I bet they'd have had a fair few of those votes that went to UKIP. There are a few genuinely xenophobic apples in the UKIP barrel, but I honestly don't believe all their voters felt that way.

(I guess I still have faith in most people to be fundamentally decent.)

Date: 2015-05-08 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
That is a good point and I don't disagree. I'm still inclined to think the difference in their polling between Scotland and rUK shows a fundamental difference in attitude but to be fair, we did end up with a UKIP MEP at the Euro elections through a combination of appalling turnout and general disillusionment.

Date: 2015-05-08 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mimmimmim.livejournal.com
I dunno about the difference in attitude. The SNP and Plaid are both nationalist parties; it could be they've got their fair share of swivel-eyed voters but at the moment those parties are appealing for a wide range of people for very different reasons so they're hidden amid the rest.

Date: 2015-05-08 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
UKIP polling was maybe the wrong example to focus on, but I do think it's increasing clear that the majority of Scotland would like to live in a fundamentally different society to the majority of England. Or at least the majority of southern England.

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